Killingworth Planning
and Zoning Commission
Regular Meeting 848, June 15, 2004
It is noted that Special Exception Application #191 for Todd Siegal,
Tanning Salon, 184 Route 81 - scheduled for Public Hearing has been withdrawn
by the applicant.
Present: C. Martens, Chairman C. Jefferson, ZEO, T. Lentz, J. Speicher,
L. Annino
D. Hale, J. O'Brien, S. Morgan (non-voting alternate), E. Hayash (non-voting
alternate)
J. Adametz (non-voting alternate), Regular Meeting Agenda
1. Call to Order
C. Martens called the meeting to order at 7:30 PM .
2. Minutes of Regular Meeting No. 847 Held June 1, 2004
Motion by Mr. Lentz, second by Mr. Annino, to approve the June 1, 2004
Minutes amended as follows -
- Page 3, under (b), 3 rd and 4 th sentence
should read, “Chairman
Martens noted this was pretty straightforward and meets all Zoning
requirements. He indicated there would be no more expansion of
the existing building and meets the intent of the regulation.”
- Page 3, under (a), 2 nd sentence should
read, “It relocates the
4 boarding stalls that are in the barn out to two-two stall buildings.”
Voting in favor - Lentz, Annino, Speicher, O'Brien, Hale, Martens. Opposed
- none. Motion Carried.
3. Visitors
(a) Ed Coppola - preliminary site plan review for Scott Papoosha on
Route 80 property
Ed Coppola noted he was present this evening representing Scott Papoosha
(who was also present). Mr. Papoosha is interested in the 7.4 acre parcel
across from him on Route 80 for a nursery (plant growing). Mr. Coppola
reviewed a preliminary layout. He indicated this is a split zone - residential
and commercial. The proposal is for greenhouses, storage building, area
for nursery stock and a new pond for irrigation purposes for the nursery
stock. He indicated the greenhouses would be mostly in the residential
area, but the applicant is looking for a little bit of guidance as to
whether or not the greenhouses are only allowed in residential or could
be in commercial as well. Mr. Lentz asked if the greenhouses would be
just for growing or whether the public would be allowed to go through
and purchase items. Mr. Coppola noted that currently it would be just
for growing. He reviewed the storage building. Mr. Coppola noted for
clarification that this would be used as support for the business across
the street. It would be used for growing and the materials would go across
the street for retail sale. Mr. Lentz reminded Mr. Coppola that it is
important that any application spell out the uses intended for this property.
Mr. Speicher noted the application should also spell out all the data
regarding materials, etc. Mr. Annino confirmed that this application
would stand on its own merits and not be considered in conjunction with
the business across the street. Mr. Coppola agreed with that. There was
discussion regarding a landscape buffer. It was noted that some kind
of a buffer will be necessary.
Ed Coppola noted he was present to discuss the Bruce Wetterman property
on Pond Meadow Road . The parcel consists of 47 acres. Mr. Wetterman
is proposing a 1 lot subdivision. Mr. Coppola noted he reviewed the 1
lot subdivision with C. Jefferson, who advised that has not been done
before in Killingworth. After further review, the proposal would be for
a 200 foot private road with Lots 2 and 3 of 4 buildable acres or greater
with frontage on the private road. Mr. Wetterman would prefer to do the
1 lot and keep the remaining lands for himself. He asked that Mr. Coppola
come this evening and ask the Commission is that was possible. Chairman
Martens noted the choices are either the 3 lot or 2 lot subdivision.
Mr. Speicher noted there would have to be Open Space. Chairman Martens
noted the Open Space could be waived until there was further development.
4. Communications and Bills
(1) Copy of IWWC Minutes from June 8, 2004 .
(2) Copy of Board of Selectmen Minutes from May 24, 2004 .
(3) Copy of Water Pollution Control Authority from June 2, 2004 .
(4) Copy of Board of Selectmen Minutes from June 7, 2004 Special Meeting.
(5) Four Affidavits of Publication were received.
(6) Letter and Notice of Tentative Determination, Dam Construction Appl.
No. DS-04-04 from Connecticut DEP received.
(7) Letter from Frederick P. Clark Associates, Inc. to Stephen S. Burgess,
dated June 4, 2004 Re State Traffic Commission Review - New Intermediate/Middle
School, Killingworth.
(8) Letter from IWWC dated June 15, 2004 Re RSD #17.
(9) Letter from IWWC dated June 15, 2004 Re The Ridges at Deer Lake
.
(10) Letter from Connecticut Water Company dated June 11, 2004 Re Public
Hearing - Intermediate/Middle School, Route 81.
(11) Letter from Todd Siegel dated June 1, 2004 withdrawing his special
exception application for a tanning salon.
(12) Letters from Richard E. Leighton, Code Official, dated June 14,
2004 Re Seven Eighths Farm, Fire Protection Review and Sanitation Review,
respectively.
(13) Letter from M. R. Dove & C.
Carpenter dated March 28, 2004 Re Interstate Battery building.
5. Old Business
(a) Brad Turley, 70 Route 80 - Amendment to Special Exception #185 for
expansion of stables
Chairman Martens noted the Commission held a public hearing at the last
meeting. The Commission members felt there was no further impact with
the expansion requested. It was noted the four boarding stalls in the
barn would be moved to two-two stall buildings outside. The concern at
the last meeting was that there had been a meeting with the Code Official
wherein suggestions were made, but there was nothing in writing to follow
up on that discussion. Mr. O'Brien felt the Commission should wait until
something in writing was received. Chairman Martens read two letters
from the Code Official dated June 14, 2004 regarding the Fire Protection
Review and the Sanitation Review. Motion by Mr. Annino, second by Mr.
Hale, to approve the Amendment to Special Exception #185 to relocate
existing boarding stables per the plan submitted with the application.
VOTING IN FAVOR - Annino, Hale, Speicher, Lentz, O'Brien, Martens. Opposed
- none. Motion Carried.
(b) The Ridges at Deer Lake, Resubdivision Phase III - Subdivision Application
#293 and (c) The Ridges at Deer Lake, Phase IV - Subdivision Application
#294 - public hearing scheduled for Resubdivision on July 20, 2004
Tom Stevens was present. He noted he was asked to come this evening
just to give a brief update as to the status of everything. He indicated
the Wetlands Commission had sent a letter and that the letter from the
Code Official would be done by the 20 th . He also noted this Commission
wanted to schedule a site walk on the subject property. There was discussion
regarding the two lots over by Town Clerk Lane and what would happen
with those two lots subsequent to Phases III and IV. Chairman Martens
restated for everyone that the proposal would be for the applicant to
come in for a resubdivision application for those two lots and deed the
conservation restriction to the Land Trust. Mr. Stevens noted that was
correct. Mr. Stevens indicated he walked the property with Wendy Goodfriend
from NRCS (National Resources Conservation Service) and expected a report
from her soon. C. Jefferson noted she spoke with Ms. Goodfriend about
what was required by the Commission and something should be forthcoming
fairly soon. Mr. Stevens noted he spoke with Tom Harty who has about
10 items to be discussed. He would like to know when to address those
items in a timely fashion. It was suggested things be addressed now before
the public hearing. There was discussion regarding the 35 day limit regulation.
Ms. Jefferson noted the intent of the regulation is to not come in with
a whole new set of plans 10 days prior to the public hearing and have
to have the whole thing re-reviewed. Mr. Annino noted the Commission
is trying to avoid incomplete applications that become work in progress.
Chairman Martens scheduled a site walk on Sunday, July 11, 2004 , at
9:00 AM (meet at the end of Buell Hill).
(d) Gary Shettle, Director of Finance & Operations,
Regional School District 17 - Special Exception Application #192 to
construct new public school - public hearing tentatively scheduled
for
July 6, 2004 at Killingworth Elementary School
Kjell Tollefson from Regional District
17 noted they were here just as an update prior to the July 6 th public
hearing. Ray Gradwell, engineer, introduced himself noting he would
give a brief overview of where the project stands. Mr. Gradwell indicated
they expect to have everything done by July 6 th . The only letter
they are currently waiting for is from N. L. Jacobson & Associates.
They started their review on Tuesday and hope to have it done by the
end of the week. It was noted Mr. Leighton is doing his review but
gave no indication of when it would be done. Chairman Martens noted
the Commission would move forward with the publication and notices
for the Public Hearing on July 6 th .
(e) Gary Belard - Special Exception Application #193 for new entrance
and signage at Shopping Center - public hearing scheduled for August
3, 2004
Chairman Martens noted there will be a public hearing for this application
on August 3, 2004 .
6. Zoning Enforcement Officer's Report
(a) C. Jefferson reviewed the letter from the Dove's regarding the Interstate
Battery building. She indicated the plans show a metal roof on the building.
There was also discussion that it would be in keeping with what was there.
The other two buildings have wooden roofs. The property owner had indicated
there wasn't any choice in roofs when he first contacted the manufacturer.
He agreed, however, to contact the manufacturer again to see if something
can be done. Ms. Jefferson is waiting to hear from the property owner
at this time.
(b) C. Jefferson noted the issue with the Flanagan Open Space easement
has been settled. It has been filed and needs the Chairman's signature.
(c) John Speicher noted he mentioned a couple of months ago about the
small propane tanks at Amerigas. C. Jefferson noted she would take a
look at the site.
7. New Business - none.
8. Report of Officers and Subcommittees
Mr. Lentz briefly reviewed some upcoming changes having to do with lighting
and building fabrics.
Motion by Mr. Annino, second by Mr. O'Brien, to go into Executive Session
at 8:40 PM for the purpose of discussing legal matters. Ms. Jefferson
was asked to remain for the discussion. Voting in favor - Annino, O'Brien,
Hale, Speicher, Lentz, Martens. Opposed - none. Motion Carried. Motion
by Mr. Annino, second by Mr. Speicher, to come out of Executive Session
at 8:45 PM. Voting in favor - Annino, Speicher, Lentz, Hale, O'Brien,
Martens. Opposed - none. Motion Carried.
9. Adjournment
There being no further business, the meeting was adjourned.
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Killingworth Planning
and Zoning Commission
Regular Meeting 847, June 1, 2004
It is noted for the record that three public hearings were held at this
time as follows -
Brad Turley, 70 Route 80 - Amendment to Special Exception for Expansion
of Stables.
Barbara Speicher, 235 Reservoir Road - Special Exception #188 for Accessory
Apartment.
Lorraine Neely, Total Hair, 176 Route 81 - Special Exception #190 Moving
Location.
PRESENT: C. Martens, Chairman, C. Jefferson, ZEO,T. Lentz,J. Speicher,L.
Annino, D. Hale,J. O'Brien, E. Hayash (non-voting alternate), J. Adametz
(non-voting alternate)
S. Morgan (non-voting alternate)
1. Call to Order
C. Martens called the meeting to order at 8:35 PM immediately following
the three public hearings noted above.
2. Minutes of Regular Meeting No. 846 Held May 18, 2004
Motion by Mr. Hale, second by Mr. Lentz, to approve the May 18, 2004
Minutes amended as follows -
Page 4, last paragraph, 3 rd sentence should read " With
regard to the access road through the required 200 foot frontage for
a conservation subdivision, Chairman Martens noted that was just a clarification
and should probably go through."
VOTING IN FAVOR: Hale, Lentz, Speicher, O`Brien, Annino, Martens. Opposed
- none. Motion Carried.
3. Visitors
Christopher Karam, 91 Parker Hill Road , introduced himself. He noted
he had a question about the road and what now appears to be another driveway
being put in right across from his driveway having to do with the Heft
Brook Estates Subdivision. He asked whether there was any chance the
driveway could be moved so it wasn't directly across from his driveway.
Chairman Martens noted he thought the plan showed the road with a common
driveway next to it for two lots in the back. Chairman Martens suggested
Mr. Karam go into the Zoning Office and ask Cathie Jefferson, ZEO, to
show him the map so they can see exactly what had been approved for that
driveway. Mr. Karam agreed to go in and talk with Ms. Jefferson.
4. Communications and Bills
(a) Copies of the three Notices of Public Hearing for tonight's meeting
- Brad Turley, Barbara Speicher and Lorraine Neely - Total Hair.
(b) Copy of Revised Site Plan & Erosion
and Sediment Control Plan for Brad M. Turley, 70 Route 80, Killingworth
, Connecticut Revised 5/25/04 .
(c) Copy of photograph for Turley application; one with two stall with
storage and one with three stall with storage.
(d) Certified Mail Receipts - Barbara Speicher, Seven Eighths Farm and
Connecticut Water Company (from Roger Nemergut).
(e) Three returned mail envelopes from public hearing mailings to abutters.
(f) Legal Notice of Publication for the three hearings for tonight -
May 20 and 27, 2004 publication dates.
(g) Affidavit of Publication for Public
Hearing of May 18, 2004 Re Zoning & Subdivision
Regulations.
(h) Legal Notice Publication for Notice
of Decision for the Zoning & Subdivision
Regulations.
(i) Copy of Board of Selectmen Record of the Vote from May 24, 2004
Meeting.
(j) Copy of letter from Concerned Voters of Killingworth in response
to First Selectman Denvir's weekly column in the Clinton Recorder. The
concerned voters stated for the record that they continue to support
the construction of a new Region 17 Intermediate/Middle School in Killingworth.
(k) Letter from Mr. & Mrs. Arthur Stoner to Killingworth Planning & Zoning
Commission dated May 19, 2004 voicing strong opposition to the proposed
zoning changes put forth at the May 18, 2004 Town Meeting.
(l) Letter from Connecticut River Estuary Regional Planning Agency to
Cathy Jefferson dated May 17, 2004 Re Referrals to the Connecticut River
Estuary Regional Planning Agency.
5. Old Business
(a) Brad Turley, 70 Route 80 - Amendment to Special Exception #185 for
expansion of stables
Chairman Martens noted the application does not intensify the use that
has already been approved. It relocates the 4 stalls that are in the
barn out to two, two stall buildings. They are also putting in a hay
storage building. Mr. Speicher noted it looks like the plan is a lot
more favorable to the neighbors than the original proposal. Mr. O'Brien
noted he would like to see a response from the Building Official indicating
that his concerns have been addressed. Chairman Martens noted the public
hearing has been closed, however, letters from staff can be received.
No decision was made at this time. It will be on the next meeting agenda.
(b) Barbara Speicher, 235 Reservoir Road - Special Exception #188 for
accessory apartment
Chairman Martens reminded everyone that John Speicher recused himself
from this application. Sue Morgan will be seated in his place just for
this application. Chairman Martens noted this was pretty straightforward.
He indicated there would be no more impact on the building than there
was originally. Motion by Mr. O'Brien, second by Mr. Hale, to approve
the Special Exception Application #188, Barbara Speicher, for Accessory
Apartment be approved as submitted. VOTING IN FAVOR - O'Brien, Hale,
Annino, Lentz, Morgan, Martens. Opposed - none. Motion Carried.
(c) Lorraine Neely, Total Hair, 176 Route 81 - Special Exception #190
moving location to The Courtyard
Chairman Martens noted this application was also pretty straightforward.
It has the same operating hours and same use. The Code Official put the
same restrictions on the septic system that were on the original use
in the other building. Motion by Mr. Lentz, second by Mr. Hale, to approve
Special Exception Application #190, Total Hair, moving location to The
Courtyard with the conditions as stated in the Code Official's letter
dated May 2, 2004. VOTING IN FAVOR - Lentz, Hale, O'Brien, Annino, Speicher,
Martens. Opposed - none. Motion Carried.
(d) Todd Siegal, 184 Route 81 - Special Exception #191 for Tanning Salon
- public hearing scheduled for June 15, 2004
Chairman Martens noted this application was scheduled for a public hearing
on June 15, 2004 .
(e) The Ridges at Deer Lake , Resubdivision Phase III - Subdivision
Application #293
Tom Stevens introduced himself as representative for The Ridges at Deer
Lake . He indicated the first application was a resubdivision of the
lower 16 lots (shown in green on the plan). Those lots have frontage
on Beaver Dam and Buell Hill Roads. Mr. Stevens explained there are currently
easements on the property that were dedicated for roadway purposes. Those
easements are proposing to be abandoned upon approval of the roads. Mr.
Lentz suggested waiting until the next meeting to see if all the proper
documentation has been presented before setting a public hearing date.
(f) The Ridges at Deer Lake , Phase IV - Subdivision Application #294
Tom Stevens noted this portion of the property had been discussed back
in 2001 and the Commission had determined at that time it would be appropriate
for a conservation subdivision. He reviewed Open Space (shown in red
on the plan).
There was discussion regarding the timeline for the two applications.
It was noted Phase III must be voted on first. If by chance, Phase III
was denied, then Phase IV would be out. Chairman Martens scheduled the
public hearing for Resubdivision Phase III for July 20, 2004 . It was
decided Tom Stevens would come in at the next meeting just for a very
brief update and to set a site walk.
6. Zoning Enforcement Officer's Report
(a) Cathie Jefferson noted she received a copy of the initial conservation
easement being worked on by Attorney Howard and Attorney Wells for the
Flanagan Subdivision. She also reviewed a new Public Act regarding this
issue that becomes effective on October 1, 2004 .
7. New Business
(a) Gary Shettle, Director of Finance & Operations,
Regional School District 17 - Special Exception Application #192 to
construct new public school - receipt of application
Kjell Tollefson introduced himself as representative for Regional School
District 17. He noted an application for the new school had been submitted
and he was asking the Commission to receive it this evening. He also
asked that the Commission set a timely public hearing. Chairman Martens
noted all the approvals must be in for the public hearing - review of
Town Engineer, Town Sanitarian Report, Fire Plan and Inland Wetlands.
Mr. Tollefson noted there are no changes to the original application
submitted back in January other than the date and meeting the most recent
changes that were adopted. Everything is in process, but he indicated
he can't speak for those who are responding back to the Commission. Informal
conversation indicates there shouldn't be a problem. The public hearing
was tentatively scheduled for July 6 th at the Killingworth Elementary
School as long as all documentation has been received by June 15 th .
(b) Gary Belard - Special Exception Application #193 for new entrance
and signage - receipt of application
Special Exception Application #193 was received. Chairman Martens set
the public hearing for August 3, 2004 .
8. Report of Officers and Subcommittees
Mr. Lentz gave a status update regarding the regulations. He began review
of the next package of regulation changes.
9. Adjournment
There being no further business, the meeting was adjourned.
Killingworth Planning and Zoning
Commission
Regular Meeting 846 , May 18,
2004
It is noted for the record that a public hearing was held and tape-recorded
regarding proposed revisions to the Zoning and Subdivision Regulations.
Present: C. Martens, Chairman, C. Jefferson, ZEO,T. Lentz, J. Speicher,
L. Annino, D. Hale, J. O'Brien, E. Hayash (non-voting alternate), J.
Adametz (non-voting alternate), S. Morgan (non-voting alternate)
1. Call to Order
C. Martens called the meeting to order immediately following the public
hearing at 9:53 PM .
2. Minutes of Regular Meeting No. 845 Held May 4, 2004
Motion by Mr. O'Brien, second by Mr. Lentz, to approve the May 4, 2004
Minutes as submitted. VOTE: In favor - O'Brien, Lentz, Hale, Speicher,
Annino, Martens. Opposed - none. Motion Carried.
3. Visitors
There was a question from one of the visitors who did not identify himself
regarding the proposed regulations that were discussed in the public
hearing held prior to this meeting. He asked if the Commission approved
those regulations, would they be effective this evening. Chairman Martens
explained that an effective date must be set to allow for publication
of the regulations.
There was another question from an unidentified visitor about applications
for The Ridges at Deer Lake . Chairman Martens noted the two new applications
were on the agenda this evening just for receipt of application and no
discussion. Mr. Stevens will probably come to the next meeting and give
a presentation.
4. Communications and Bills
(1) Copy of Subdivision Plan Prepared for RTT Development, Inc. Montville
, Connecticut dated 11/8/98 submitted by Mr. Heller.
(2) Letter from Janet Morann-Violissi & Carol
Morann dated May 18, 2004 Re Proposed Changes in the Zoning Regulations.
(3) Memo from Killingworth Inland Wetlands and Watercourses Commission
dated May 18, 2004 Re Proposed Regulation 61B, Required Characteristics.
(4) Letter from Regional Water Authority dated May 4, 2004 Re Amendments
to Killingworth Zoning Regulations.
(5) Letter from Town of Clinton Planning & Zoning Commission dated
April 19, 2004 Re Various Changes to the Killingworth Zoning & Subdivision
Regulations.
(6) Letter from Midstate Regional Planning Agency dated April 13, 2004
Re Zoning Text Amendments.
(7) Two Legal Notice Publications for the Proposed Amendments to the
Zoning and Subdivision Regulations, one published on May 5, 2004 and
the second on May 12, 2004 .
(8) Letter from Connecticut River Estuary Regional Planning Agency dated
May 4, 2004 Re Proposed Revisions to Various Zoning/Subdivision Regulations.
(9) Copy of Statute Page 169 submitted by Mr. Heller having to do with
Highway Construction and Maintenance.
(10) Copy of Court Memorandum of Decision from Dunham v. New Milford
PC, No. CV01 0085538 submitted by Mr. Heller.
(11) Copy of Decision from Property
Group, Inc. v. Planning & Zoning
Commission of Tolland (14630) submitted by Mr. Heller.
(12) Copy of summary sheet prepared by Tom Lentz.
(13) Copy of Board of Selectmen Record of the Vote and Minutes from
meeting of May 10, 2004 .
(14) Copy of Inland Wetlands and Watercourses Commission Minutes from
May 11, 2004 .
(15) Copy of Board of Selectmen Minutes from April 26, 2004 .
(16) Letter from W. David LeVasseur, Undersecretary from State of Connecticut
Office of Policy and Management dated May 11, 2004 Re Recommended Conservation
and Development Policies Plan for Connecticut 2004-2009.
(17) Memo from Richard E. Leighton, Code Official,
to Killingworth Planning & Zoning
Commission dated March 28, 2004 Re Special Exception Application, 235
Reservoir Road, Accessory Apartment, Approved as Submitted.
5. Old Business
Chairman Martens noted the following Special Exception Applications
for Turley, Speicher and Neely were all scheduled for June 1, 2004 as
noted below.
(a) Brad Turley, 70 Route 80 - Amendment to Special Exception for expansion
of stables - public hearing scheduled for June 1, 2004
(b) Barbara Speicher, 235 Reservoir Road - Special Exception #188 for
accessory apartment - public hearing scheduled for June 1, 2004
(c) Lorraine Neely, Total Hair, 176 Route 81 - Special Exception #190
moving location to The Courtyard - public hearing scheduled for June
1, 2004
Chairman Martens noted the Tanning Salon Special Exception Application
was scheduled for June 15, 2004 as noted below.
(d) Todd Siegal, 184 Route 81 - Special Exception #191 for Tanning Salon
- public hearing scheduled for June 15, 2004
7. New Business
(a) The Ridges at Deer Lake , Resubdivision Phase III - Subdivision
Application #293, receipt of application
(b) The Ridges at Deer Lake , Phase IV - Subdivision Application #294,
receipt of application
Chairman Martens noted both the above applications for The Ridges at
Deer Lake were being received this evening. There was no discussion.
5. Old Business
(e) Proposed Changes to Zoning and Subdivision Regulations
Chairman Martens noted there was a lengthy public hearing for the proposed
changes to the Zoning and Subdivision Regulations prior to the regular
meeting. He indicated he was surprised that there was no support for
the vernal pools. He also suggested the Commission work on the definition
of upland review area.
Mr. Lentz noted the opposition was mostly against two things - 1) the
school, and 2) increasing lot size and decreasing lot yield on subdivisions
of large parcels. He felt the testimony regarding the school issue was
not useful, because it came from those that were opposed to the school
at that particular site. Their comments did not address the regulation,
which is simply to allow a school in a residential zone in Killingworth.
There is no provision for that now. With regard to the Soil Based Zoning,
Mr. Lentz noted he could understand why property owners would not want
their lot yield reduced. There wasn't much evidence produced, however,
that these changes would actually reduce lot yield. The areas protected
are probably wetlands poor soils and subject to the 25 percent limitation.
There were a few minor suggestions that were useful. Inconsistency between
the regulation and inland wetlands definition of upland review area was
one suggestion. Another one was DOT review of school access.
With regard to Section 7.5, Chairman Martens noted that if there is
a subdivision access road, the Commission can ask for improvement of
the intersection. He briefly reviewed the testimony during the public
hearing. Mr. Martens indicated he felt the regulation could be changed
in order to make it work. C. Jefferson suggested perhaps the Town Attorney
should do a little research on the evidence submitted by Mr. Heller as
Mr. Heller basically said it could be illegal. It might be wise for the
Commission to get a legal opinion of its own on this matter.
Referring back to the Soil Based Zoning, Mr. Lentz noted the only thing
that might have a major impact would be the upland review area. He noted
there is very good justification for Soils Class F (ledge and excessive
slope). Perhaps this should be looked at some more.
Chairman Martens noted there should be a uniform definition of Upland
Review Area. He also noted Section 7.5 should be rewritten.
Chairman Martens noted there definitely was some strong feelings about
the school. There was discussion about the 25 acres net buildable. Chairman
Martens noted it is obvious there are a lot of people opposed to that
particular school site (Route 81), and a lot of people support the Venuti
site. There was discussion about how the school regulation could be rewritten.
Chairman Martens suggested the Commission approve the proposed changes
that were not controversial. The ones that were controversial (upland
review area, school definition and Section 7.5) could be pulled out and
reworked. With regard to the 200 foot road, Chairman Martens noted that
was just a clarification and should probably go through. If there is
objection to it, it can be removed with the next package.
There was much discussion regarding the school regulation.
Commission members reviewed the package to see what should be removed.
The following was suggested. Section 61A.2(P) was deleted from the package.
Section 61B, Required Characteristics, remove 3. Upland Review Areas,
change numbers 4 and 5 to 3 and 4. Section 173A.3, remove 3. Upland Review
Areas, change numbers 4 and 5 to 3 and 4. Section 20A. Definitions, remove
Upland Review Area. Section 61A.2(Q) was deleted from the package. Section
7.5 was deleted from the package.
Motion by Mr. Annino, second by Mr. O'Brien, to approve the proposed
amendments, changes, clarifications, additions and adoptions to the Zoning
and Subdivision Regulations presented 5/18/04, with the exception of
Section 61A.2(P), 61B.3 (renumber 4 and 5 to 3 and 4), Section 173A.1.3
of Resource Characteristics (renumber 4 and 5 to 3 and 4), Section 173A.3.3
(renumber 4 and 5 to 3 and 4), Section 20A-Definitions, remove Upland
Review Area, Section 61A.2(Q) and Section 7.5; effective June 1, 2004.
VOTE: In favor - Annino, O'Brien, Hale, Lentz, Speicher, Martens. Opposed
- none. Motion Carried.
There was a brief discussion on starting a new package of proposed changes.
Mr. Lentz will start working on the next package.
6. Zoning Enforcement Officer's Report
C. Jefferson noted she didn't have anything to report this time.
Mr. Annino asked whether Ms. Jefferson had a chance to look at Running
Brook Farms approval. Ms. Jefferson replied she had and she was going
to be meeting with the owner in the next few days to review matters.
8. Report of Officers and Subcommittees
Motion by Mr. O'Brien, second by Mr. Annino, to add Executive Session
to the agenda. VOTE: In favor - O'Brien, Annino, Hale, Lentz, Speicher,
Martens. Opposed - none. Motion Carried. Motion by Mr. O'Brien, second
by Mr. Annino, to go into Executive Session at this time to discuss legal
issues. VOTE: In favor - O'Brien, Annino, Hale, Lentz, Speicher, Martens.
Opposed - none. Motion Carried. Motion by Mr. Annino, second by Mr. O'Brien,
to come out of Executive Session at 11:07 PM . VOTE: In favor - Annino,
O'Brien, Hale, Speicher, Lentz, Martens. Opposed - none. Motion Carried.
9. Adjournment
There being no further business, the meeting adjourned at 11: 08 PM
.
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Minutes of Regular Meeting 845 of the Killingworth Planning and Zoning Commission
held on Tuesday, May 4, 2004 , at the Killingworth Town Office Building
Present: T. Lentz C. Jefferson, ZEO L. Annino ,O'Brien ,D. Hale
(arrived at 7:32 PM ),E. Hayash (seated for C. Martens) ,S. Morgan (seated
for D. Hale until his arrival) ,J. Adametz (seated for J. Speicher) ,
1. Call
to Order
Vice Chairman Lentz called the meeting to order at 7:30 PM .
2. Minutes of Regular Meeting No. 844 Held April 20, 2004 and Site Walk Minutes
of April 25, 2004
Motion by Mr. O'Brien, second by Mr. Hayash, to approve the April 25, 2004
Site Walk Minutes as written and the April 20, 2004 Regular Meeting Minutes
amended as follows -
- Page 1, correct the date at the top of the meeting to April 20, 2004
- Page 4, under 8., last sentence should read “Another
regulation that should be added is the financial contribution to an
Open Space fund in lieu of Open Space.”
VOTE: In favor - O'Brien, Hayash, Adametz, Annino, Morgan, Lentz. Opposed
- none. Motion Carried.
3. Visitors
Maurice Woodworth was present. He noted there was a recent site walk at the
Clarkson property at the corner of Stevens and Roast Meat Hill Roads. He asked
if there was some feedback regarding the concept of the Conservation Subdivision.
He gave a brief summary. There would be 9 lots on 70 acres, the conservation
plan utilizes the westerly stonewall as a property line, 27 acres would be
given to the Land Trust for Open Space, 1000 foot Town road (both conservation
and conventional subdivision). Mr. Woodworth noted the conservation plan gives
flexibility to make those walls a property line and all the lots would be 2
acres plus. Motion by Mr. O'Brien, second by Mr. Annino, to accept the concept
of a conservation subdivision. Discussion followed. Mr. O'Brien noted the site
walk clearly showed that is the better way to go. Vice Chairman Lentz noted
he agreed that the Conservation Subdivision was preferable. The stonewalls
are being protected and there is more Open Space. The developer is not gaining
anything from a Conservation Subdivision. There is the same number of lots
and same length of road. Mr. Hale noted there is a watercourse that goes through
the property, and it is his understanding it is a significant feeder for the
Indian River . That unique feature further supports the idea of a Conservation
Subdivision. VOTE: In favor - O'Brien, Annino, Hale, Adametz, Hayash, Lentz.
Opposed - none. Motion Carried.
4. Communications and Bills
(1) Special Exception Application No. 191, Todd Siegal, for tanning salon
was received.
(2) Fax from South Central Connecticut Regional Water Authority dated May
4, 2004 Re Amendments to Killingworth Zoning Regulations.
(3) Copy of Inland Wetlands and Watercourses Commission Minutes from April
13, 2004 and April 27, 2004 .
(4) Letter from Town of Clinton Planning
and Zoning Commission dated April 19, 2004 Re Various Changes to Killingworth
Zoning & Subdivision Regulations.
(5) Copy of letter to Osprey Environmental Engineering LLC from Richard E.
Leighton, Code Official, dated April 22, 2004 Re Lot 17 Lower Ledge S/D, Soil
Testing Activities Within Buffer Zone.
(6) Copy of Board of Selectmen Record of the Vote from April 26, 2004 .
(7) Memo to Killingworth Planning & Zoning Commission from Richard E.
Leighton, Code Official, dated May 2, 2004 Re Special Exception Application,
Hair Salon & Retail Supply Sales, Approved w/conditions.
(8) Memo to Killingworth Planning & Zoning
Commission from Richard E. Leighton, Code Official, dated May 2, 2004 Re
Flanagan Brook Subdivision, Sanitation Review Approved as Submitted.
(9) Memo to Killingworth Planning & Zoning Commission from Richard E.
Leighton, Code Official, dated May 2, 2004 Re Special Exception Application,
Tanning Salon & Retail Supply Sales, Approved as Submitted.
5. Old Business
(a) Flanagan Brook 2 Lot Subdivision, Green Hill Road
Vice Chairman Lentz noted the Sanitation Review was completed and approved
as submitted. Mr. Leighton noted in his letter there were some initial issues/concerns
and those have been addressed. Mr. Nemergut noted they have addressed all issues
with regard to Fire Protection, Sanitation and Wetlands and have received approvals
on those. Mr. Nemergut noted an issue came up at the last meeting about splitting
the 18.2 acres into two lots, one with the existing house and the other being
a building lot of 14 acres. Mr. Nemergut explained that in order to meet the
net buildable requirements, a portion of the house lot had to be across the
brook. It was agreed that a Conservation Restriction would be placed on the
back portion of the lot including the brook in the restriction. Mr. Nemergut
noted a last minute thought was that there probably should be a prohibition
of the keeping of animals in the conservation area. The Town Attorney will
review this document. Motion by Mr. O'Brien, second by Mr. Hale, to approve
the Flanagan Brook 2 Lot Subdivision with the condition that The Declaration
of Conservation Restriction be reviewed and accepted by Town Counsel and that
the keeping of animals in the
conservation area is prohibited. VOTE: In favor - O'Brien, Hale, Annino, Hayash,
Adametz, Lentz. Opposed - none. Motion Carried.
(b) Brad Turley, 70 Route 80 - Amendment to Special Exception for expansion
of stables - public hearing scheduled for June 1, 2004
Vice Chairman Lentz noted the public hearing for this application is scheduled
for June 1, 2004 .
(c) Barbara Speicher, 235 Reservoir Road - Special Exception #188 for accessory
apartment - public hearing scheduled for June 1, 2004
Vice Chairman Lentz noted the public hearing for this application is scheduled
for June 1, 2004 .
(d) Lorraine Neely, Total Hair, 176 Route 81 - Special Exception #190 moving
location to The Courtyard - public hearing scheduled for June 1, 2004
Vice Chairman Lentz noted the public hearing for this application is scheduled
for June 1, 2004 .
6. Zoning Enforcement Officer's Report
(a) C. Jefferson noted things have been very busy lately with all the rain
we've had and problems at Heft Brook, Surrey Ridge and Dunkin Donuts. The erosion
and sedimentation control measures have failed at some point for all 3 of those
locations listed. Everyone is working to get those locations stabilized. Hopefully
Dunkin Donuts will have the detention basin cleaned out and start seeding within
the next couple of weeks.
(b) C. Jefferson noted she received a memo
from First Selectman Denvir regarding NEMO ( Non-Point Education for Municipal
Officials). NEMO is the group that does the educational services for municipal
agencies. They would like to do a program in Killingworth and are looking
for representatives from Conservation, Planning & Zoning and Inland Wetlands.
Those individuals would meet with NEMO representatives to discuss the protection
of water resources in the Town. The name of Charles Martens was volunteered.
(c) C. Jefferson noted she received a concern
from the Selectmen's Office about construction going on in Town (whether
it is a subdivision or just a new home) and the fact that people park all
over the roads. There apparently has been some problems with roads being
blocked. The question was is there a way to address that through Planning & Zoning.
Ms. Jefferson suggested this might be dealt with through some kind of a Parking
Ordinance. Vice Chairman Lentz noted the Selectmen deal with the roads and
this should go back to them with the suggestion of a Parking Ordinance.
(d) April permit log was distributed.
7. New Business
(a) Todd Siegal, 184 Route 81 - Special Exception #191 for Tanning Salon -
receipt of application
Vice Chairman Lentz suggested Mr. Siegal talk with C. Jefferson, Zoning Enforcement
Officer, to be sure his application is complete. At the public hearing, Mr.
Siegal would then have the opportunity to explain hours, type of business,
parking, etc. Mr. Siegal noted there is a two page summary in his application
that he will elaborate on at the hearing. A public hearing was scheduled for
June 15, 2004 .
8. Report of Officers and Subcommittees - none.
9. Adjournment
There being no further business, the meeting adjourned at 7:58 PM .
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Minutes of Regular Meeting 844 of the Killingworth Planning and Zoning Commission
held on Tuesday, April 20, 2004 , at the Killingworth Town Office Building
Present: C. Martens,C. Jefferson, ZEO,T. Lentz, J. Speicher, L. Annino, O'Brien,
D. Hale (arrived at 7:38 PM), E. Hayash (sat for D. Hale until his arrival;
then non-seated alternate),S. Morgan (non-seated alternate),J. Adametz (non-seated
alternate)
1. Call to Order
Chairman Martens called the meeting to order at 7:30 PM .
2. Minutes of Regular Meeting No. 843 Held April 6, 2004
Motion by Mr. Speicher, second by Mr. Lentz, to approve
the April 6, 2004 Minutes correcting the name of “Heinz” to “Hines.” VOTE:
In favor - Lentz, Speicher, Annino, Hayash, O'Brien, Martens. Opposed - none.
Motion Carried.
3. Visitors
Maurice Woodworth was present to discuss a proposed subdivision on the corner
of Roast Meat Hill Road and Stevens Road , the Clarkson Property. He would
like to review conservation subdivision versus conventional subdivision. Most
of the site has B soils. There are some C and A soils by the farmhouse. Mr.
Woodworth noted that a conventional layout with a 1000-foot Town road would
yield 10 lots. The house lot would be 3.8 acres with 9 additional lots (2.0
acres to 3.2 acres net). Chairman Martens noted he thought Mr. Woodworth had
said 9 lots the last time he was before the Commission. Mr. Woodworth noted
it was 9 lots without the road, just using driveways. The stone walls would
be utilized for boundaries. The road would go along one of the stone walls.
There would be a restriction on the long stonewall of 50 to 60 feet in favor
of the Commission so nothing could be done to it. Mr. Woodworth reviewed Open
Space, which would consist of 16 acres along the western side. Chairman Martens
asked how big the two lots were in the southeast corner where the wetlands
were. Mr. Woodworth noted those lots were 4.1 and 4.5 acres net. Mr. Woodworth
then reviewed the conservation layout noting the road would be moved to the
other side of the east side of the wall. The smallest lot would be 2 acres.
The house lot would stay the same. Lot 5 would be an interior lot. Mr. Woodworth
reviewed frontage. It was noted there are already some cuts in the walls that
could be used for driveways. Mr. Hale mentioned that the sightline on the corner
might need some work to improve access. The conservation subdivision had 27
acres of Open Space. A site walk was scheduled for Sunday, April 25, 2004 ,
at 9:30 AM .
Bob Dowler and Roger Nemergut were present. Mr. Dowler
noted there had been some concern about turning property over to the Land
Conservation Trust having to do with the Old Church Common property. He noted
that had been done last year and recorded. Mr. Nemergut reviewed the piece
of property at Routes 80 and 81 (known as the “garage lot”). He noted the
plan has been modified since the last informal discussion. The site is 2.2
acres with frontage on Routes 81 and 80. The proposal at that time was to
have two way access off of Route 81 and off of Route 80 as well. Mr. Nemergut
noted this is still informal discussion. There is no formal application at
this time. He indicated they are still proposing a two way access off Route
81. Messrs. Dowler and Nemergut met with the owners of the Country Market
and as of last week, they indicated they had no interest of sharing a right-of-way.
That option has therefore been eliminated. Mr. Nemergut noted he spoke with
DOT about sightlines. He met with the inspector in the field who indicated
the entrance should be shifted down towards the traffic circle because the
sightline improves dramatically. Mr. Nemergut noted that the building, the
driveway and parking were kept within the commercial extension line. Mr.
Speicher asked Mr. Nemergut if in his conversations with DOT, whether DOT
mentioned having a traffic signal. Mr. Nemergut replied no. They didn't show
much concern about the Route 81 access. They were more concerned about the
sightline on Route 80. The building would be 7000 square feet (3500 footprint)
with two stories. Chairman Martens asked what the proposed use of the building
would be. Mr. Nemergut replied it would be either office or retail. Mr. Adametz
asked if the Fire Department's access to water would remain. Mr. Nemergut replied
it would remain and possibly might be improved. There was much discussion regarding
the access. Chairman Martens noted the more desirable access would be as far
away from the traffic circle as possible and as far west on Route 80. The Commission
felt the Route 81 access would create a dangerous situation and wasn't favorably
received. Mr. Nemergut will look at the Route 80 drive location from a feasibilities
point of view.
4. Communications and Bills
(1) Copy of Board of Selectmen Record of Vote from April 12, 2004 .
(2) Copy of Board of Selectmen Special Meeting Minutes April 14, 2004 .
(3) Copy of Board of Selectmen Minutes from April 12, 2004 .
(4) Copy of Agenda from Clinton Planning & Zoning
Commission for their meeting of April 12, 2004 .
(5) Copy of Water Pollution Control Authority Minutes from April 7, 2004 .
(6) Copy of Inland Wetlands and Watercourses Commission Minutes from March
23, 2004 .
(7) Memo from Inland Wetlands and Watercourses Commission dated April 15,
2004 Re Seven Eighths Farm Commercial Boarding Stable Application.
(8) Memo from Inland Wetlands and Watercourses Commission dated April 15,
2004 Re Flanagan brook Subdivision, 188 Green Hill Road .
(9) Copy of letter from Cathie S. Jefferson to Frank D'Andrea dated 4/20/04
Re Notice of Violation.
(10) Letter from Midstate Regional Planning Agency dated April 13, 2004 Re
Zoning Text Amendments.
(11) Letter from Cornerstone Construction Services to
Killingworth Planning & Zoning
Commission dated April 14, 2004 Re Return of Final Bonding for Jacob Lane in
the Powder Brook Subdivision.
5. Old Business
(a) Flanagan Brook 2 Lot Subdivision, Green Hill Road
Chairman Martens noted there is nothing new to report on this application.
6. Zoning Enforcement Officer's Report
(a) C. Jefferson noted there have been a lot of weather created problems over
the last couple of weeks at current subdivisions. Ms. Jefferson issued notices
from the Wetlands Commission to stop work until the rain ended. Subsequently
there was a problem with the detention basin at Dunkin Donuts that they neglected
to clean and fix. This is a bad time of year for starting subdivisions. She
has discussed this with the Wetlands Commission who will be thinking about
putting certain controls on starting projects between February and June. Ms.
Jefferson noted Dunkin Donuts has only a temporary Certificate of Occupancy
at this time.
(b) Mr. Annino asked Ms. Jefferson if the approval for Running Brook Farms
included storage of material, stock and trees behind the little house. Ms.
Jefferson noted the original site plan approval did not show that area for
storage of trees. That was the area they were going to use for the soil processing
and it was left empty. If they didn't win the lawsuit, they were going to come
back in and ask to be able to stockpile their inventory of trees, but they
haven't done that to date. Mr. Annino noted he is not opposed to the business,
but he is opposed to it expanding beyond what was approved. Ms. Jefferson noted
she will take a look at what is going on at that location.
(c) Mr. Speicher asked Ms. Jefferson to stop by Amerigas to take a look at
the old tanks. They were supposed to have removed some of them.
7. New Business
(a) Special Exception #190, Lorraine Neely, Total Hair, 176 Route 81 - receipt
of application
Lorraine Neely introduced herself. She noted she is applying to move her business
over to the Courtyard. She has been in the Village Shopping Center for 14 years.
A public hearing was scheduled for June 1, 2004 .
(b) Cornerstone Construction Services
A letter has been received from Cornerstone Construction Services dated April
14, 2004 requesting return of their final bonding amount for Jacob Lane in
the Powder Brook Subdivision. Chairman Martens gave an update of what has transpired
relative to this matter. According to Mr. Smith's letter, the Town voted to
authorize the First Selectman to accept the road in February 2003, contingent
upon filing all the needed deeds, etc. It seems the appropriate paperwork was
not filed for a year. Tom Smith feels it was the Town's attorney's fault for
not getting the paperwork back to the Town on a timely basis. C. Jefferson
explained the procedure in the past had been that the Board of Selectmen would
recommend approval of a road to go to Town Meeting, pending receipt of all
documentation. Once the documentation was received, then the Board would schedule
a Town Meeting. In this case, the road was approved at a Town Meeting before
the required documentation was received. The Town Meeting has always been the
last stop in the past and this is probably confusing to the developer. Ms.
Jefferson noted it is the responsibility of the developer to get all paperwork
in and be sure it is filed. In this case, the developer has indicated he sent
all the documentation off to the Town Engineer and Town Attorney and then never
heard back from anyone. Ms. Jefferson remembers Attorney Howard telling her
about six months he was having trouble reaching the developer's attorney to
get the deeds corrected. She noted it is still the developer's responsibility
to get all paperwork filed, but there is probably some confusion over the fact
the Town Meeting was held prior to the submission of the paperwork. Chairman
Martens noted the Commission when recommending a road for acceptance to the
Selectmen should include a statement that it should not go to Town Meeting
until all the documents have been filed. There was much discussion regarding
Performance and Maintenance Bonds. Motion by Mr. Speicher, second by Mr. Annino,
to return the developer's bond in this instance considering there was some
confusion in communication between attorneys and the final paperwork did not
get filed in a timely manner and that the one year is now up since the Town
Meeting accepting the road. VOTE: In favor - Speicher, Annino, Hale, Lentz,
O'Brien, Martens. Opposed - none. Motion Carried.
(c) Memorandum of Decision, Graff
Chairman Martens noted the Memorandum of Decision regarding the Graff litigation
has been received.
8. Report of Officers and Subcommittees
Chairman Martens noted there should be an accessory use regulation for the
next set of revisions to Zoning Regulations having to do with cats and dogs.
There was discussion about how the regulation should be written. Another regulation
that should be added is the Open Space in lieu of regulation.
9. Executive Session - pending litigation
Motion by Mr. O'Brien, second by Mr. Hale, to go into Executive Session at
9:00 PM for the purpose of discussing pending litigation. VOTE: In favor -
O'Brien, Hale, Annino, Speicher, Lentz, Martens. Opposed - none. Motion Carried.
Motion by Mr. Annino, second by Mr. Hale, to come out of Executive Session
at 9:29 PM . VOTE: In favor - Annino, Hale, Speicher, Lentz, O'Brien, Martens.
Opposed - none. Motion Carried. No votes were taken.
10. Adjournment
There being no further business, the meeting was adjourned at 9:31 PM .
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Minutes of Regular Meeting 843 of the Killingworth Planning and Zoning
Commission held on Tuesday, April 6, 2004 , at the Killingworth Town Office Building
Present: C. Martens C. Jefferson, ZEO ,T. Lentz ,J. Speicher,L.
Annino,D. Hale,E. Hayash,(non-seated alternate) ,S. Morgan (non-seated alternate),J.
Adametz (seated for J. O'Brien)
1. Call to Order
Chairman Martens called the meeting to order at 7:36 PM .
2. Minutes of Regular Meeting No. 841 Held March 2, 2004 (meeting #842 was
cancelled)
Motion by Mr. Annino, second by Mr. Speicher, to approve the March 2, 2004
Minutes amended as follows -
- Page 4, add sentence to 6(b), “The Commission
agreed that the maintenance bond remain in place after town acceptance
for one year.”
VOTE: In favor - Annino, Speicher, Lentz, Adametz, Hale, Martens. Opposed
- none. Motion Carried.
3. Visitors
John Heinz noted this Commission is responsible for safety on sites it approves
(i.e. Middle School) and he wasn't sure the members saw the extent of the cliffs
in the woods at the back of the property where one of the fields is going to
go. There is about 800 feet of cliffs ranging in height from 30 to 60 feet.
This has been mentioned at public meetings and the response was that the school
would be fenced from the cliffs. This would be about 1600 feet of fence. Mr.
Heinz noted he wasn't sure everyone on this Commission understands the magnitude
of the problem and indicated he would be pleased to take anyone for a walk
out there to see it. He has lived there all his life and one of the main attractions
was playing on the cliffs as kids.
Maurice Woodworth noted he was present for a preliminary discussion on a site
at Stevens Road and Roast Meat Hill Road . Larry Brown has an option to purchase
70 acres. There are mostly B soils. The site has very big stonewalls that are
about 6 feet wide and 4 feet high. The stonewalls are conveniently located
to be utilized as property lines. Mr. Woodworth reviewed a conventional subdivision,
which would yield 9 total lots, 8 new lots and 1 lot with the existing house.
Mr. Woodworth reviewed the wetlands pointing out where the wetlands crossing
would go. There was discussion regarding the 1000 foot road and the Open Space.
Mr. Woodworth noted the only advantage to doing a Conservation Subdivision
would be the flexibility to utilize all stonewalls as property lines. Open
Space was reviewed. There would be the same number of lots. It was the consensus
from members that the Conservation Subdivision (additional Open Space and same
number of lots) with the road would be the better plan. Mr. Woodworth will
put together the required paperwork and submit an application.
Peter Venuti, 116 Burr Hill Road , noted
the Lions Club had a “Kids Night
Out” last Friday at the Killingworth Elementary School . He noted that trying
to get in and out of the school was a nightmare. He indicated it is very important
there be the required number of adequate parking spaces, so that cars can get
in and out without any problem. There were 200 kids in the auditorium and if
something happened, the kids wouldn't have gotten out and the fire trucks wouldn't
have gotten in. The fire lane restriction is never enforced. Mr. Venuti urged
the Commission to take this into consideration in its review of the regulations.
Chairman Martens explained that the number of parking spaces required, depending
on the use, is already in the regulations. He further explained the number
of parking spaces would depend on the seating capacity of the auditorium. Mr.
Venuti asked if the Commission wasn't in fact drawing up new school regulations
and this could be part of the consideration. Mr. Lentz explained the only thing
that is being done is adding schools to the list of permitted uses. Chairman
Martens noted all the requirements for buffer, parking, etc. are already in
the regulations.
4. Communications and Bills
(a) Several certified green card receipts for newly proposed regulations changes.
(b) Certified green card receipt for letter to Frank D'Andrea by C. Jefferson.
(c) Two legal notice publications for RSD #17.
(d) Affidavit of Publication for Surrey Ridge Subdivision.
(e) Copy of Water Pollution Control Authority Minutes from March 3, 2004 .
(f) Copy of Inland Wetlands & Watercourses
Commission Minutes from March 9, 2004 .
(g) Copy of Board of Selectmen Minutes from March 8, 2004
(h) Copy of Board of Selectmen Minutes from March 16, 2004 .
(i) Copy of Board of Selectmen Minutes from March 22, 2004 .
(j) Memo from First Selectman Denvir to All Offices and Departments, Boards
and Commissions dated March 29, 2004 Re Legal Expenses.
(k) Bill from Connecticut Federation of
Planning & Zoning Agencies for
membership dues through March 31, 2005 in the amount of $90.00.
(l) Bill from Technique Printers for printing of Zoning Regulations in the
amount of $192.00.
(m) Copy of letter to Roger Nemergut from
State DOT dated February 27, 2004 Re Commercial Development (Dowler) Route
80 & 81, Killingworth.
(n) Referrals from Town of Clinton Planning & Zoning
Commission Re Proposed Amendments to Zoning and Subdivision Regulations,
AR 04-002, AR 04-003 and AR 04-004.
(o) Memo from Chester Planning & Zoning
Commission dated March 29, 2004 Re Petition for Amendment of Zoning Regulations
Section 80.
(p) Letter from W. David LeVasseur, Undersectary Intergovernmental Policy
Division, State of Connecticut Office Of Policy and Management, dated March
17, 2004 RE Recommended Conservation and Development Policies Plan for Connecticut
2004-2009.
(q) Memo from Attorney William Howard to C. Martens dated March 16, 2004 Re
Regulation Amendments.
(r) Copy of Memo to David Denvir from Richard E. Leighton, Code Official,
dated March 28, 2004 Re Code Compliance Review Services for New Intermediate/Middle
School.
(s) Copy of letter from Richard E. Leighton, Code Official, to Robert D. Mercer-Falkoff
dated March 28, 2004 Re Property Conveyance, McCormack/Water Company, Lot Line
Change Application.
(t) Copies of two letters from Cathie S. Jefferson to Frank D'Andrea (dated
3/19/04 and 4/1/04 ) Re Signs.
(u) Letter from State DEP regarding Aquifer Protection and Land Use Regulations
(letter was passed along to Inland Wetlands).
(v) Letter from Gary & Mary Frohlich to Killingworth Planning & Zoning
Commission dated April 1, 2004 Re Withdrawal of Special Exception Application
#184 (should be #187).
(w) Copy of letter to IWWC from Richard E. Leighton, Code Official, dated
March 23, 2004 Re Revised Proposed Sub-surface Sewage Disposal System at Lot
17 Lower Ledge.
(x) Copy of letter from Osprey Environmental Engineering to Richard Leighton
dated March 31, 2004 Re Lot 17 Lower Ledge Site Plan.
(y) Memo from Richard E. Leighton, Code
Official, to Killingworth Planning & Zoning
Commission dated March 28, 2004 Re Special Exception Application, 235 Reservoir
Road, Accessory Apartment, Disapproved as Submitted.
(z) Copy of letter from Richard E. Leighton, Code Official, to Roger Nemergut
dated March 28, 2004 Re Seven Eighths Farm, Preliminary Review.
(aa) Copy of letter from Richard E. Leighton, Code Official, to Roger Nemergut
dated March 28, 2004 Re Flanagan Brook S/D, Preliminary Review.
(bb) Original letter from N. L. Jacobson & Associates to Planning & Zoning
Commission dated February 24, 2004 Re Regional School District #17, New Intermediate
School , Special Exception #186, Engineering Review.
(cc) Original letter from N. L. Jacobson & Associates to Planning & Zoning
Commission dated March 2, 2004 Re Heft Brook Estates Bond Estimates.
(dd) Original letter from N. L. Jacobson & Associates to Planning & Zoning
Commission dated March 2, 2004 Re Surrey Ridge Bond Estimates.
(ee) Letter from Killingworth Land Conservation
Trust to Killingworth Planning & Zoning
Commission dated April 6, 2004 Re Open Space Dedication.
(ff) Copy of Raised Bill #5515, An Act Concerning Consolidation of Local Land
Use Commissions.
5. Old Business
(a) Special Exception #187, Gary Frohlich,
for Earth Removal, Lot 17 of Lower Ledge Subdivision on River Road – application
withdrawn by applicant
Chairman Martens reiterated that the applicant has withdrawn this application
as noted in the letter referenced earlier.
6. Zoning Enforcement Officer's Report
(a) C. Jefferson noted both Heft Brook and Surrey Ridge Subdivisions were
started a couple of days ago before the heavy rains. Last week was just a nightmare.
The water protection tank went in at Surrey Ridge today. C. Jefferson indicated
she will talk with Inland Wetlands about letting developers start subdivisions
in March. They should not start until a certain time of the year when it is
dry. With all the rain that fell last week, even the best erosion and sediment
control measures just don't work.
(b) C. Jefferson noted she attended the
conference last Friday in Rocky Hill. It ended up being a “Zoning 101” more
than covering new things.
(c) C. Jefferson noted the Connecticut Water
Company is working on the dam and they have a question as to where they fit
in relative to the Planning & Zoning
Regulations. Ms. Jefferson noted the concern to Planning & Zoning was the “borrow
pits” where they will be digging dirt on the site to build thedam up. She explained
the Town's regulations only talk about removing material from the site. Ms.
Jefferson noted she, as well as the DEP, has seen all the plans. The question
is do they have to come in for an earth removal permit when they are only moving
it somewhere else on the same site. They will be stockpiling for a certain
amount of time. Ms. Jefferson noted the DEP, the Army Corps of Engineers, the
Water Company and the Town are overseeing this project. Commission members
agreed this was okay as long as the project had been reviewed by Ms. Jefferson.
(d) Permit log for March 2004 was distributed.
(e) Chairman Martens reviewed the letter
from the Killingworth Land Conservation Trust regarding when open space in
an approved subdivision plan must be transferred to the recipient designated
by the Planning & Zoning Commission. C. Jefferson
noted it used to be before the mylar was filed, but people sometimes don't
file their mylars in a timely manner and it expires. Mr. Lentz noted the Open
Space must be dedicated by the time the mylar is signed. This must be strictly
adhered to. Mr. Lentz checked the regulations and it is on Page 7-14 of the
Subdivision Regulations.
7. New Business
(a) Flanagan Brook 2 Lot Subdivision, Green Hill Road , - receipt of application
Roger Nemergut introduced himself as the applicant's representative. He noted
this is a proposed 2 lot subdivision at 188 Green Hill Road . This is an 18
acre piece that the owner would like to split into two parcels. There is an
existing house on the north side of the brook which would be a 3.7 acre lot.
The balance of the 18 acres would be a big house lot. Mr. Nemergut noted the
Wetlands Agency has given a permit for a significant crossing of the brook.
Chairman Martens asked if this was a resubdivision. Mr. Nemergut replied no.
He indicated the applicant is now in the process of gathering the referral
letters from appropriate individuals. A letter was received from the Code Official
relative to a preliminary review of the subdivision. There was a brief discussion
regarding whether or not a Conservation Subdivision would be beneficial in
this instance. Chairman Martens noted the Commission would not discuss this
any further until the balance of the information is received.
(b) Amendment to Special Exception, Brad Turley, 70 Route 80
Roger Nemergut noted there would be a total of 8 proposed structures, 4 being
12 x 44 two stall stables. There is also an interior central portion available
for tack and hay storage. Each building would have a stall on each end with
a central area for storage. Chairman Martens asked what the stables would be
made of. Mr. Nemergut noted they are wood construction. They are pre-constructed
and come in on a trailer. Chairman Martens asked if there is a foundation.
Mr. Nemergut noted that is one of the issues raised by the Code Official and
they will have to go on foundation. Chairman Martens noted this would have
to go to Public Hearing. Mr. Nemergut noted he will be meeting with the Code
Official next week to review the issues in his letter. Mr.Nemergut noted there
were some concerns the last time about lighting. They have modified the lighting
and changed the halogen to incandescent and replaced some of the standard flood
lights. There are lower wattage fixtures and some of the lights were put on
motion detectors to be used only on an as-needed basis. Mr. Nemergut noted
there is currently no lighting level at the property line greater than a tenth
of a foot candle. A public hearing was scheduled for June 1, 2004 . Mr. Turley
explained the reason for the expansion was due to word of mouth referrals.
The riding arena brings in potential boarders. Mr. Speicher noted the neighbors
would think of this as a significant escalation. Mr. Turley noted he is on
the premises for two or three hours every day and he has someone on premises
from 7:00 AM every day. There was a brief discussion about moving the 3 horses
that Mr. Turley owns to a different area and whether that would make a difference.
Chairman Martens asked how many horses there would be total if the proposal
was approved. Mr. Nemergut replied the additional 8, plus the already approved
4, plus Mr. Turley's 3 horses.
(c) Leninski Logging Application
C. Jefferson noted there isn't anything
for Planning & Zoning to do yet
with this application. Inland Wetlands hasn't decided yet on their permit.
Ms. Jefferson will be going on a site walk but Mr. Leninski hasn't marked the
trees yet.
(d) Special Exception Application #188
Barbara Speicher, 235 Reservoir Road - application for accessory apartment
was received. C. Jefferson noted this would have to go to public hearing. A
public hearing was scheduled for June 1, 2004 .
(e) Moss Property, Burr Hill Road
Chairman Martens read a letter regarding the Moss property on Burr Hill Road
relative to dedication of Open Space to the Town. As this is being transferred
into a Living Trust that means it is exempt. Before the property is developed,
there would have to be individual lots with individual wells and septic systems.
8. Report of Officers and Subcommittees
Bond Chairman Speicher reviewed the recommended
bond amounts for Heft Brook Estates and Surrey Ridge Subdivisions. Motion
by Mr. Speicher, second by Mr. Annino, to set the bonds at the recommended
amounts by N. L. Jacobson & Associates
as follows - Heft Brook Estates - Performance Bond at $356,100 and Erosion
Control Bond at $10,100; Surrey Ridge Subdivision - Performance Bond at 108,900
and Erosion Control Bond at $10,300. VOTE: In favor - Speicher, Annino, Hale,
Lentz, Adametz, Martens. Opposed - none. Motion Carried.
9. Adjournment
There being no further business, the meeting was adjourned at 9:05 PM .
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Minutes of Regular Meeting 841 of the Killingworth Planning and Zoning Commission
held on Tuesday, March 2, 2004 , at the Killingworth Town Office Building
Present: C. Martens, Chairman, C. Jefferson, ZEO
T. Lentz, J. Speicher, L. Annino, D. Hale, J. O'Brien
S. Morgan (non-voting alternate), J. Adametz (non-voting alternate)
E. Hayash (non-voting alternate)
Public Hearing - Special Exception Application #186 submitted by Gary Shettle,
Regional School District 17, 9 Little City Road, Higganum, Connecticut for
a Special Principal Use, Residential District, as a public school on property
owned by Regional School District 17 located on Route 81, Killingworth, Connecticut,
Tax Map 20, Parcels 25, 26B, 27, Zoning District RR.
It is noted for the record the above public hearing was opened, a letter of
withdrawal was read into the record, and the public hearing was closed.
1. Call to Order
C. Martens called the meeting to order at 7:46 PM immediately following the
above public hearing.
2. Minutes of Regular Meeting No. 840 Held February 17, 2004
Motion by Mr. Speicher, second by Mr. Lentz, to approve the February
17, 2004 Minutes amended as follows -
Page 1, bottom of page, correct
sentence to read “This building at
8,000 square feet is now pre-existing nonconforming use .”
Page 2, half way down the page,
correct sentence to read “Mr. Speicher
noted the Town also doesn't want a Walmart or Home Depot to put our hardware
store out of business.”
Page 5, under (b), correct sentence
to read “Attorney Howard suggested
maybe $5 per month, and if it is more than $10, then it would have to be
prepaid annually.”
VOTE: In favor - Speicher, Lentz, Annino, Adametz, O'Brien, Martens.
Opposed - none. Motion Carried.
3. Visitors - none.
4. Communications and Bills
(1) Copy of Board of Selectmen Minutes from February 23, 2004 .
(2) Certified Green Card Returned by Gary Shettle.
(3) Affidavit of Publication for Regional School District 17 Public Hearing.
(4) Letter from Gary Shettle, Regional School District 17, dated March 2,
2004 (handwritten date) to Charles Martens Re Withdrawal of Regional School
District 17 Application #186.
(5) Memorandum from Thomas Harty, N. L.
Jacobson & Associates
dated February 13, 2004 to Charles Martens Re Regional School District 17,
Killingworth Intermediate School .
(6) Fax copy of letter from Thomas Harty,
N. L. Jacobson & Associates
dated February 24, 2004 (5 pages) to Charles Martens Re Regional School District
17, New Intermediate School, Special Exception #186, Engineering Review.
(7) Letter from State of Connecticut DEP dated February 26, 2004 to Ray Gradwell,
P.E. Re Regional School District 17, Killingworth, construction of two detention
basins.
(8) Copy of letter from Richard E. Leighton,
Code Official, to Jeter Cook & Jepson
dated Febarury 22, 2004 Re Comments Revised Site Plan, Regional School District
17, Proposed Intermediate/Middle School, Fire Protection Review Comments, Revised
Site Plan 12/30/03.
(9) Copy of letter from Richard E. Leighton,
Code Official, to Jeter Cook & Jepson
dated November 14, 2003 Re Comments, Proposed Intermediate/Middle School, Regional
School District 17, Fire Protection Review Comments.
(10) Letter from John Hine dated February 27, 2004 to Charles Martens Re concerns
regarding negative effects of the Intermediate Middle School on the enjoyment
of their property.
(11) Letter from Representative Jim Spillone
regarding a legislative alert having to do with a public hearing for raised
bill #5526 entitled “Act
Concerning Real Estate Conveyance Tax and Harbor Management Plans.”
5. Old Business
(a) Special Exception #186, Regional School
District 17, application for construction of new intermediate/middle school
Chairman Martens reiterated that the applicant has withdrawn this application.
He noted there needs to be a regulation that would facilitate the application
for a Middle School in Killingworth. The regulation currently in effect was
never meant to exclude regional schools, but had certain criteria that would
make a large school difficult to place within the regulations. Chairman Martens
noted there was a meeting this morning attended by various individuals, one
of who was the Zoning Enforcement Officer, Cathie Jefferson. A draft regulation
had been prepared by Messrs. Lentz and Martens during the week and shown
to the Town Attorney today. The Town Attorney noted he didn't have any problem
with it. Chairman Martens reviewed the regulation. He noted “non-profit public “ would
be deleted from the current regulation, Section 61A.2(P). A new regulation,
Section 61A.2(Q) would be added. Chairman Martens noted the school's attorney
proposed a new regulation Section 61A.1 which would come under General Principal
Uses and not require a public hearing. Everyone has agreed on the general regulation,
but disagrees on whether it should be come under a General Principal Use (no
public hearing) or Special Principal Use (requiring a public hearing). Chairman
Martens next reviewed definitions for setbacks, improvements and buildings.
The exclusions in a setback were reviewed. It was agreed to change the reference
to improvement in setback to building. Mr. Annino noted he had concerns regarding
the requirements for lot size. There was discussion regarding number of students
and how it relates to the lot size. After much discussion, the following language
was recommended for lot size - “size of the lot shall be sufficient to support
the proposed activities but in no case shall be less than 25 net buildable
acres.” Mr. Annino noted his concern was being consistent with the Town Plan
of Development (sewer avoidance). Chairman Martens asked members whether this
should go under a General Principal Use or Special Principal Use. Mr. Speicher
noted he would never consider this without holding a public hearing. Mr. O'Brien
noted he felt the public deserves a public hearing. Chairman Martens noted
the new regulation would then be Section 61A.2(Q) and to clarify setback the
word “improvement” would be changed to “building” in the definition.
Chairman Martens reviewed the timetable for the proposed regulations change.
It was suggested this new regulation could be added to the current package
being worked on.
Mr. Lentz next reviewed the changes pertaining to this new regulation. Everyone
agreed this could now go forward as read by Mr. Lentz.
(b) Special Exception #187, Gary Frohlich,
for Earth Removal, Lot 17 of Lower Ledge Subdivision on River Road – public
hearing scheduled for April 6, 2004
Chairman Martens noted a public hearing has been scheduled for April 6, 2004
for Special Exception Application #187, Gary Frohlich.
6. Zoning Enforcement Officer's Report
(a) C. Jefferson noted she received letters from Tom Harty setting the bonds
for Heft Brook Estates. The lawsuit has been dropped against the Inland Wetlands
so they will be starting soon.
(b) C. Jefferson noted the three roads approved
nearly a year ago by P&Z
are being dealt with by the Board of Selectmen now that they finally received
all documentation. The developer is requesting release of their maintenance
bond because it has been over a year since Planning & Zoning said everything
was okay. Ms. Jefferson asked whether this has to go for one year after acceptance
of a town road, or from when P&Z has said everything is okay. The regulations
say it has to go through a winter season. Mr. Lentz read the regulation that
stated “…a ten percent cash bond shall be maintained in full force and effect
for a period of one year after final acceptance of the road by the Town.”
7. New Business
Chairman Martens asked members if they supported the conveyance tax as reviewed
earlier under Communications above (11). It was agreed the Commission supports
this bill. There was discussion as to whether this goes to the State or to
the Town. Motion by O'Brien, second by Lentz, for Chairman Martens
to send an email in support of the conveyance tax raised bill #5526. VOTE:
In favor - O'Brien, Lentz, Martens, Speicher, Annino, Adametz. Opposed - none.
Motion Carried.
8. Report of Officers and Subcommittees
There was continued discussion regarding the proposed regulations changes.
It was decided Mr. Lentz would modify the upland review area to only permit
class A-E at 25 percent.
9. Adjournment
There being no further business, the meeting adjourned at 9: 06 PM .
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Minutes of Regular Meeting
840 of the Killingworth Planning and Zoning Commission,
Tuesday, February 17, 2004 , at the Killingworth Town
Office Building
Present: C. Martens, Chairman, C. Jefferson, ZEO
T. Lentz, J. Speicher, L. Annino, D. Hale, J. O'Brien
S. Morgan (non-voting alternate), J. Adametz (non-voting alternate)
E. Hayash (non-voting alternate)
1. Call to Order
Chairman Martens called the meeting to order at 7:30 PM .
2. Minutes of Regular Meeting No. 839 Held February 3, 2004
Motion by Mr. Speicher, second by Mr. Lentz, to approve the February
3, 2004 Minutes as written. VOTE: In favor - Speicher, Lentz, Annino,
Hale, Morgan, Martens. Opposed - none. Motion Carried.
3. Visitors
(a) Killingworth True
Value Hardware, Route 81 – Informal Discussion
Roger Nemergut introduced himself along
with Tom Cost from Killingworth True Value Hardware. Mr. Cost is proposing
an addition to the existing building located on the southwest corner
of Stevens Road and Route 81. Mr. Nemergut noted the black dash line
on the map is the existing hardware building. The shaded areas are proposed
addition and/or proposed free standing building. In 1992 a permit was
granted for the original hardware store building. In 1996 a special exception
was granted for an addition to the west side of the building. The building
today is 8,000 square feet. Mr. Nemergut noted at the time this building
fell within the regulations in terms of size and other aspects of the
commercial zoning district. He didn't think there was a maximum size
limitation on the commercial buildings at that time. Mr. Nemergut explained
that in 1999 there was a zone change creating two commercial zoning districts.
This particular lot fell within the general commercial zone and there
was a stipulation that no building could be larger than 5,000 square
feet. This building at 8,000 square feet is now pre-existing nonconforming.
Two or three years ago, the Hardware Store approached Mr. Nemergut with
the idea of putting an addition on to the building. It was noted right
off that there was going to be a problem because of the size requirement
in terms of it not being in conformance with the Zoning Regulations.
Mr. Nemergut indicated he came in about two years for an informal discussion
and showed an addition and free standing building. The difference in
this drawing is that it is 6,500 square feet (instead of the original
7,000), the connector is 760 square feet (original 2,500), and the storage
building is being proposed at 3,000 square feet (original 2,300). In
summary, the connector got substantially smaller, the addition got a
little bit smaller and the storage building got a little bit bigger.
Tom Cost reviewed the letter from William Douglas Murdoch, Senior Retail
Operations Specialist from True Value dated February 9, 2004 . Mr. Cost
noted they realize the constraints they are under and have looked at
alternatives. He indicated that operating several different store fronts
with one business entity is very risky. From a competitive standpoint,
Walmart has moved into both Saybrook and Guilford . Home Depot opened
up in Middletown 3 weeks ago and are looking for a location on the shoreline
between Old Saybrook and Branford. This is a major concern as they have
seen other True Values and independents go by the wayside because they
have been unable to stay competitive. Mr. Nemergut noted the letter from
Mr. Murdoch highlights the fact that Killingworth True Value needs to
grow in order to survive. Regardless of what form this takes, it will
take a variance. This proposal is structured in a way to have the least
amount of problems. Chairman Martens noted the applicant would have to
take this to the ZBA for a variance. Regardless of what the Commission
thinks of the plan and its goals, it has to stick with the 5,000 square
feet and can't increase the nonconformity. Mr. Nemergut reviewed the
parcels in response to a question from Mr. Annino. There was discussion
as to whether or not the parcel could be subdivided. Mr. Lentz noted
the applicant could put up multiple buildings as long as they weren't
over 5,000 square feet. He also noted the reason for this regulation
with the limitation of 5,000 was so that Killingworth doesn't have any
of these Box Stores. Mr. Speicher noted the Town also doesn't want a
Walmart or Home Depot put our hardware store out of business. Chairman
Martens asked if the proposal would solve the future expansion needs.
Mr. Cost replied yes at this location. Mr. Lentz asked why the building
couldn't be 5,000 as it is only 1,500 more than the limitation. Mr. Cost
noted they don't have the proper amount of management facility in the
current location. As they grow, they need more personnel and space. They
don't even have a lunch room currently. Mr. Cost indicated they are not
only competing for consumers, but for workers too. This is the smallest
amount of space that they can move forward with with the types of products
and offerings they wish to bring to Town. Mr. Speicher noted he liked
the idea of the glass atrium, but was concerned that there be no advertising
on it. Chairman Martens noted the applicant was already nonconforming
with an 8,000 square foot building. It would be easier if the new proposal
fit the existing regulation at 5,000 square feet. Chairman Martens asked
Mr. Nemergut how much area would be paved. Mr. Nemergut noted the paving
limits were shown in red on the map. He indicated the detention pond
would move south. It was the consensus of members that the new proposal
should fit within the existing regulation of 5,000 square feet. Messrs.
Cost and Nemergut thanked the Commission members for their time.
4. Communications and Bills
(1) Conwood Foresters application for work at Reservoir Road was received.
(2) Site Lighting Plans (revised) and Site Sign Plans for Region School
District 17 New Intermediate/Middle School in Killingworth were received.
(3) Legal Notice Publication for Surrey Ridge Subdivision.
(4) Copy of Water Pollution Control Authority Minutes from February
4, 2004 .
(5) Copy of Inland Wetlands & Watercourses
Commission Minutes from February 10, 2004 .
(6) Copy of letter to Terrance & Maureen
O'Neill from Connwood Foresters, Inc. dated February 17, 2004 Re Connecticut
Water Company Killingworth Reservoir Expansion Project.
(7) Fax copy of Memorandum from Thomas
R. Harty, N. L. Jacobson & Associates
to Charles Martens dated February 13, 2004 Re Regional School District
#17, Conditions of Approval by Inland Wetlands and Watercourses Commission.
(8) Copy of letter to Killingworth True Value Hardware from Wm. Douglas
Murdoch, Senior Retail Operations Specialist dated February 9, 2004 Re
Market and Analysis.
(9) Letter from Jeter Cook & Jepson
to Charles Martens dated February 17, 2004 Re New Intermediate/Middle
School, Interpretation of Killingworth Zoning Regulations.
(10) Letter from Cornerstone Construction to Cathy Jefferson dated February
5, 2004 Re Jacob Lane Maintenance Bond Release.
(11) Copy of letter from Town of Clinton
Planning & Zoning Commission
to Peter M. Sipples dated January 15, 2004 Re Denial of Application to
Amend Zoning Regulations.
(12) Copy of Notice of Tentative Determination for Intent to Issue a
State Permit and an Underground Injection Control Permit for Discharge
into the Waters of the State of Connecticut based on an application submitted
by Regional School District #17.
5. Old Business
(a) Special Exception
#186, Regional School District 17, application for construction of
new intermediate/middle school – public hearing scheduled
for March 2, 2004
Tom Dowling from Jeter
Cook & Jepson
introduced himself as the applicant's representative. He noted they
checked some things after the last meeting and would now like to seek
confirmation. Mr. Dowling referenced and read Section 61A.2(P) wherein
it talked about a minimum buildable lot size. They have interpreted
this project as not needing to comply with this regulation pertaining
to lot size. He indicated Regional School District 17 would not fall
under the Non-Profit Organization and is specifically not under the rules
of a 501(c)(3) (Internal Revenue Code) organization. Mr. Dowling also
noted Section 33-1002 of the Connecticut General Statues clearly excludes
any municipality or any of its agencies or departments from being deemed
a non-profit organization under State law. That is how they came to the
interpretation that the minimum buildable lot size does not apply to
this project. Chairman Martens explained this regulation came about because
of an application for a religious school in a residential zone. There
was no regulation at that time that allowed a school in a residential
zone. It didn't fall under the category of municipal improvements either.
Mr. Lentz noted he agreed that that regulation was not meant to cover
Regional School District 17, and the District doesn't meet the definition
that is in the regulations. Mr. Lentz noted the regulation requires a
certain amount of acreage for a certain number of students, and there
is probably not enough land. Mr. Dowling reviewed the maximum acreage
required by the State for reimbursement purposes. Chairman Martens also
noted that if this proposal doesn't fall under Section 61A.2(P), then
it doesn't need a public hearing.
(b) Special Exception #187, Gary Frohlich,
for Earth Removal, Lot 17 of Lower Ledge Subdivision on River Road – public
hearing scheduled for April 6, 2004
Chairman Martens noted a public hearing has been scheduled for Special
Exception Application #187 for Earth Removal on April 6, 2004 .
6. Zoning Enforcement Officer's Report
(a) C. Jefferson noted she met with representatives from Deer Lake LLC.
There still are outstanding items on Beaver Dam and Buell Hill Roads.
There are two items that they hope to complete within the next couple
of weeks (extend guard rail another 10-15 feet and clean out one of the
plunge pools).
(b) C. Jefferson noted the sign is down on Route 81. The property owner
has agreed to remove the sign and come in for a customary home occupation.
(c) C. Jefferson noted the 2004 What's Legally Required is now available
and Diane Zukowski will order copies.
(d) Chairman Martens reviewed an upcoming
seminar to be held in Rocky Hill on Planning & Zoning Issues.
7. New Business
(a) Timber Harvest
Application, Connwood Foresters – Connecticut Water
Company property on Reservoir Road
C. Jefferson noted this is the initial timber harvesting that goes along
with the expansion of the dam for The Connecticut Water Company. The
State DEP has already approved it. Connwood Foresters is going to clear
cut about 5 feet along the edge of the water. A representative from Connwood
reviewed the work. He noted there was only one abutting property owner
who has acknowledged receipt of the application. This work will be done
in two phases - four acres this winter and spring to do prep work and
mitigated area over the summer, and the rest of the 19 acres after that.
Chairman Martens asked how long this project was going to be. It was
noted the project will be put out to bid with a requirement that it be
done within a two month period but it should be environmentally friendly.
Mr. Lentz asked what would happen to the slash. It was noted some of
it will be chipped and removed off site, and some will be chipped and
broadcast into the woods. There will not be any areas of piled up debris.
(b) Chairman Martens noted the Clerk has received a request from Terry
McDermott to email him copies of agendas and minutes. After checking
with the Town Attorney on the legal requirements, it has been determined
there is no electronic requirement for agendas or emails even with a
written request. Chairman Martens noted someone may request a specific
set of minutes, but not a blanket request for the whole year. In this
instance, there can be a copy charge of 50 cents per page. Chairman Martens
noted there is a Statute that says someone can request in writing a subscription
of notifications of meetings and special meetings for a year. There can
also be a reasonable charge for this service. Attorney Howard suggested
maybe $5 per month, and if it is more than $10, then it would have to
be prepaid. Chairman Martens noted the Agendas are also available by
website.
(c) Chairman Martens reminded everyone there is a site walk on Sunday,
February 22, 2004 , at 9:00 AM for Regional School District 17.
8. Report of Officers and Subcommittees
Mr. Lentz briefly reviewed the proposed changes to the regulations as
edited after receipt of comments from Attorney William Howard. Mr. Speicher
noted he would like to see the number of poultry and rabbits put back
to 100, rather than the change to 50. Motion by Mr. Speicher,
second by Mr. Annino, to leave the number of poultry and rabbits at 100.
VOTE: In favor - Speicher, Morgan, Annino, Hale. Opposed - Lentz, Martens.
Motion Carried. Chairman Martens asked that members review these
proposed regulations for the last time and at the next meeting a timetable
will be set up proceeding to public hearing.
It was noted C. Jefferson will contact the Town Engineer to take a look
at Jacob Lane to see whether the maintenance bond can be released per
the request of Cornerstone.
9. Adjournment
There being no further business, the meeting adjourned.
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Present: C. Martens, Chairman, C. Jefferson, ZEO
T. Lentz, J. Speicher, L. Annino, D. Hale, J. O'Brien
S. Morgan (non-voting alternate), J. Adametz (non-voting alternate)
E. Hayash (non-voting alternate)
1. Call to Order
Chairman Martens called the meeting to order at 7:30 PM .
2. Minutes of Regular Meeting No. 838 Held January 20, 2004
3. Visitors – none.
4. Communications and Bills
(1) Letter from Connecticut Siting Council dated January 27, 2004 to
First Selectman David Denvir Re Connecticut Siting Council Telecommunications
Towers Jurisdiction.
(2) Copy of WPCA Minutes from January 7, 2004 .
(3) Copy of IWWC Minutes from January 13, 2004 .
(4) Affidavit of Publication for Notice of Decision for Heft Brook Estates
Subdivision.
(5) Copy of Board of Selectmen Minutes from January 26, 2004 .
Chairman Martens noted the Board of Selectmen voted
to send a letter to the School Board regarding the request to hold
an informational meeting before the P & Z public hearing. It has
been decided such meeting will be held on February 24 th .
(6) Copy of letter from Cathie Jefferson to David Ryan dated 2/3/04
Re Business Operating at 142 Route 81.
(7) Memo to All Staff, Committees, Commissions dated January 27, 2004
Re Killingworthtoday.com.
There was some discussion regarding the insertion of minutes on the
website and whether or not these minutes are secure so no one can alter
them.
(8) Copy of letter from Shipman & Goodwin LLP
to Hon. John C. Driscoll Superior Court dated January 22, 2004 Re Nicole
Graff v. Zoning Board of Appeals of Town of Killingworth.
(9) Copy of letter from Gould, Larson, Bennet,
Wells & McDonnell,
PC to Hon. John C. Driscoll Superior Court dated January 26, 2004 Re
Nicole Graff v. Zoning Board of Appeals of Town of Killingworth.
(10) Letter from State of Connecticut DEP , Notice of Tentative Determination
Intent to issue a State permit and Underground Injection Control Permit
for the following discharge into the waters of the State of Connecticut
. Chairman Martens noted this pertains to the septic system for Region
17. C. Jefferson asked if this should be posted in the Town Clerk's Office.
Chairman Martens noted he has never seen one of these before, but thought
it probably should be posted in the Town Clerk's Office.
(11) Letter from Connecticut River Coastal Conservation District asking
for funds. Chairman Martens noted he would put a note on this letter
and forward it to the First Selectman that this Commission endorses this
request as this is the group it uses for its environmental review teams.
5. Old Business
(a) Special Exception #186, Regional School District
17, application for construction of new intermediate/middle school – public
hearing scheduled for March 2, 2004
Chairman Martens noted there will be a public hearing for this application
on March 2, 2004 at the Killingworth Elementary School All Purpose Room.
Some members asked if a site walk was necessary. Chairman Martens noted
he would contact Mr. Tollefson to see if a site walk can be arranged,
tentatively on Sunday, February 29 th . Mr. O'Brien asked if the engineer
was going to respond to questions having to do with the septic system,
etc. Chairman Martens noted these questions should be raised during the
public hearing process so they can be responded to. Mr. Hale asked if
the Fire Marshal should be asked to attend that meeting. Chairman Martens
noted the fire plan will be in writing and is shown on the site plan.
6. Zoning Enforcement Officer's Report
(a) C. Jefferson noted she received a call from someone who had grave
concerns about the lack of restrictions on what can be used as building
materials in Killingworth. This would be for an accessory building in
a residential zone. She suggested that this individual write the Commission
a letter outlining what she had in mind.
(b) C. Jefferson distributed the January permit log.
(c) C. Jefferson distributed copies of a map she prepared showing privately
owned properties in town that have potential to be developed as subdivisions.
(d) C. Jefferson noted she sent a letter to the property owner at 142
Route 81 about the operating business and sign.
7. New Business
(a) Special Exception #187, Gary Frohlich, for
Earth Removal, Lot 17 of Lower Ledge Subdivision on River Road – receipt
of application
Chairman Martens noted a public hearing needed to be scheduled for this
application. C. Jefferson noted Mr. Frohlich is resubmitting this application.
He has already submitted to Wetlands and is waiting for a decision from
them. A public hearing was scheduled for April 6, 2004 .
(b) Mr. Hale asked C. Jefferson if she had been on Buell Hill Road lately.
He indicated there is a certain amount of construction and trucks going
in and out of there. C. Jefferson noted they are placing fill on the
lots that need to be tested. She will take a look at the area.
8. Report of Officers and Subcommittees
T. Lentz noted he is still working on the regulations. They should be
available for the next meeting.
9. Adjournment
There being no further business, the meeting adjourned.
Minutes of Regular Meeting 838
January 20, 2004
It is noted for the record a public
hearing was held for Subdivision Application #290 submitted by Kishel
Construction, LLC and Donald W. & Francis
Koerlin, 379 Green Hill Road, Madison and 449 Roast Meat Hill Road, Killingworth,
respectively, for a 6 Lot Resubdivision as shown on plans entitled “Resubdivision,
Historical & Archaeological Features Preservation Plan Prepared for
David Kishel “Surrey Ridge” Roast Meat Hill Road Killingworth, Connecticut” on
property owned by Kishel Construction, LLC & Donald W. and Francis
Koerlin located 1900 feet south of intersection of Route 148 and Roast
Meat Hill Road (East Side), Tax Map 20, Parcel 37D & 42AA, Zoning District
RR. The public hearing commenced at 7:30 PM and was closed at 8:06 PM .
Meeting:
Present: C. Martens, Chairman C. Jefferson, ZEO,T. Lentz,
J. Speicher, L. Annino,D. Hale,J. O'Brien,
S. Morgan (non-voting alternate),J. Adametz (non-voting alternate), E. Hayash
(non-voting alternate)
1. Call to Order
C. Martens called the meeting to order at 8:07 PM immediately following
the public hearing noted above.
2. Minutes of Regular Meeting No. 837 Held January 6, 2004
Motion by Mr. Hale, second by
Mr. Lentz, to approve the January
6, 2004 Regular Meeting amended as follows –
Page 1, under 3(a),
10 th sentence should read “The
existing garage would be removed.”
Page 2, 1 st paragraph,
5 th sentence should be changed to read “Mr. Lentz noted there is another
problem in that commercial use into an adjacent residential zone is
very limited.”
VOTE: In favor – Hale, Lentz, O'Brien, Annino, Speicher, Martens.
Opposed – none. Motion Carried.
3. Visitors – none.
4. Communications and Bills
(1) Chairman Martens noted several pieces of correspondence were entered
into the record during the Surrey Ridge Subdivision Public Hearing.
(2) Memo from Terry McDermott to Killingworth
Planning & Zoning
Commission dated January 20, 2004 requesting electronic copy of Agenda
and Minutes for the next 12 months.
(3) Invoice from Ciel in the amount of $22.50 (re Plans for Cranberry
Lane Subdivision pending litigation).
(4) Copy of Board of Selectmen Record of the Vote from January 12, 2004
.
(5) Copy of Board of Selectmen Minutes from Special Meeting of January
15, 2004 .
(6) Letter from Connecticut River Coastal Conservation District, Inc.
to David L. Denvir dated January 5, 2004 regarding financial support for
FY '05 in the amount of $1,561.
(7) Notice from Clinton Planning & Zoning
Commission regarding Special Meeting of February 23, 2004 Re Amendment
to the Zoning Regulations Section 12: Neon Signs.
(8) Copy of letter from CRERPA to Clinton
Planning & Zoning
Commission dated January 6, 2004 Re Petition to Amend Zoning Regulations
Section 12.9.5, Prohibited Signs.
(9) Copy of Board of Selectmen Minutes from January 12, 2004 .
(10) Memorandum from Howard, McMillan & D'Aquila
dated January 16, 2004 Re Proposed Zoning Regulation Amendments.
(11) Copy of letter from Richard E.
Leighton, Code Official, to Thomas A. Stevens dated January 9, 2004 Re
The Ridges at Deer Lake S/D Phase III & IV,
Sanitarian's Comments.
(12) Original letter from N. L. Jacobson & Associates to Planning & Zoning
Commission dated December 31, 2003 Re Heft Brook Estates Subdivision, Parker
Hill Road, Engineering Review.
(13) Copy of Special Exception Application Transmittal (enclosing application
and plans) from Regional School District 17 Re New Intermediate Middle
School.
(14) Copy of letter from Connecticut State Museum of Natural History to
Stuart Fairbank dated December 19, 2003 Re Marcinek Property, 2 Lot Subdivision.
5. Old Business
(a) Surrey Ridge Subdivision, Roast Meat Hill, 6 Lot Subdivision #290,
submitted by Kishel Construction
Chairman Martens noted there are 3 requests
for waivers – landscaping
plan, timber cutting and Section 7.4.1.D. The Section 7.4.1.D pertains
to the 200 foot frontage for Lot 2. The applicant is requesting a waiver
to 150 feet so the driveway can be moved over from the wetlands. Mr. Martens
noted everything else was in place during the public hearing. Mr. Speicher
noted he wasn't clear as to why a waiver was being requested for timber
cutting. C. Jefferson explained the request was because of how this is
stated in the subdivision regulations. The regulations should state a request
is necessary for “over so many board feet.” The Zoning Regulations clarify
this but the Subdivision Regulations do not. Mr. Speicher noted the frontage
issue was discussed at the second site walk and he felt the explanation
for it made a lot of sense. Mr. Annino pointed out the waiver for the frontage
would be for the purpose of keeping the driveway on Lot 1 out of the wetlands
review area. Motion by Lentz, second by Annino, to approve the
three waivers for Surrey Ridge Subdivision for Landscaping Plan, Timber
Cutting and Frontage (Section 7.4.1.D) for Lot 2.
VOTE: In favor – Lentz, Annino, O'Brien, Speicher, Hale, Martens. Opposed – none.
Motion Carried.
Chairman Martens noted the waivers have been granted and the application
is complete. The necessary approvals have been received for the fire protection
plan and sanitation. There is nothing significant archeologically on the
lots. Everything else is in place. Motion by Speicher, second by
Annino, to approve the Surrey Ridge Subdivision Application #290 on Roast
Meat Hill Road . VOTE: In favor – Speicher, Annino, Hale,
Lentz, O'Brien, Martens. Opposed – none. Motion Carried.
(b) Timber Harvest Application submitted by Peter Marlowe for Estate of
Bernard Roth, 39 Beckwith Road
C. Jefferson noted she visited the site and approvals have been received
from Inland Wetlands. The landing site is back on the property well away
from the road. There is an established driveway and it doesn't look like
there will be any problem. It was noted the part of the property up near
Beckwith Road is not being done. Motion by O'Brien, second by Speicher,
to approve Timber Harvest application for Estate of Bernard Roth, 39
Beckwith Road . VOTE: In favor – O'Brien, Speicher, Lentz,
Annino, Hale, Martens. Opposed – none. Motion Carried.
6. Zoning Enforcement Officer's Report
(a) C. Jefferson noted she had the mylars for the Marcinek property which
requires the Chairman's signature. A copy of the archeological report was
also submitted from Nicholas F. Bellantoni, Connecticut State Archeologist.
(b) C. Jefferson noted she started reviewing privately owned, larger parcels
of property a few years ago when the Town got GIS. She indicated nothing
further has been done relative to this as she is awaiting the IT upgrade
that the Town is undertaking. C. Jefferson noted 7 or 8 of those larger
parcels have been developed in the last 5 years. She is working on identifying
the owners of all the parcels. Mr. Lentz noted it is a shame the Commission
can't make more use of the GIS. Chairman Martens agreed noting the ZEO
needs a new computer in order to continue working on this project.
7. New Business
(a) Special Exception #186, Regional
School District 17, application for construction of new intermediate/middle
school – receipt of application
Kjell Tollefson was present representing
Regional School District 17 on the Building Committee. The application
for the new intermediate/middle school on Route 81 was submitted. He
indicated the project's engineer and architect (Graham Curtis and Tom
Dowling) were present if there were any questions. Chairman Martens noted
there were some conditions stipulated by the Inland Wetlands approval
that were to have been put on the site plan and asked if that had been
done. Mr. Tollefson noted that has been done and the plans were resubmitted
last Tuesday. Tom Dowling from Jeter, Cook & Jepson